Tamara,

Thanks for your thoughts as well.I don’t think we disagree so much, just that I’ve put a different spin on what this movie was, the mid point, and what the next one is, the ending.

I am not sure at all that any of the people in the movie were real, or that some of them were not. If that makes sense! Like the oracle … perhaps there is a real one in the battery section, or in “the real world” and that what was in the first movie was her “matrix” version. Perhaps in this second movie it was an “imposter oracle”. Perhaps.

I did not say the beginning part of what I had to say to excuse the sex scene, just that, for a NON-Christian movie, it wasn’t that bad, and that the out cries I’d heard had prepared us for almost “REAL s*x onsreen” in the end we didn’t think it would be that bad, the only reason we got the DVD. If we thought it’d be that bad, no way. So then, at least the talk about the thing itself totally misreantind it. The “Temple” was very weird. It is part of what I was saying in the post, about the “non God” world … so the love stuff in it was there, yet not, just nearby and it wasn’t like it was “church” there. It was a mass of people torn and huddled to live together, what will they do? Create something to tie them together, some kind of religion … not Christianity though. Can’t have that without Christ. I sure don’t expect any movie to expouse Christ and His Kingdom … though as much as they TRY to ignore it, it’s themes are ever present in any movie … to one dergree or another. This movie has a very philosophical/relicials feel to it.

So anyhow, some of the stuff you said, about the fight things, they were long. But they made sence in the perspective of “Showing us what Neo was made of” He was incredibly able to defend off many foes at the same time. Not normal even in the Matrix for any of the Agents or the liberated Rebulls coming back into the Matrix on their own terms, so they think.

So this ends up being a movie that has a hero that isn’t so sure he is that hero, but shows what he is made of, and that he does things that makes him the hero, he isn’t the hero by smarts of what to say or what to ask. Just DO when it’s time, and he does it. But when it comes to “Choice” it makes him an un-action man. It stops him in his tracks and he gets stuck. It’s why I think he went into the Mainframe and believed the architect. I am thinking totally that it’s all a lie. It’s not true … the prophesies ARE true. The architect is the one “Controling” perhaps it’s someone else, but he’s not “God” and can’t control what’s meant to be. It’s his last futile effort to stop the rebellion from changing his world and theirs. Tell them a lie, if they believe it, they’ll change their own actions and ways of thinking, it will defeat them in the end. Make them think that this happens over and over … none of it’s real. He’s the one in control, … ha. I bet he’s not. THAT is why it wasn’t a dissapointment to me. Cause I can think that stuff until the next movie comes out and proves mre right or wrong or any degree inbetwind.

I’ve watched the movie twice this week. I develop more thoughts about it the more I see it. I’ll be writing more, and surely will see fit to alter or change entirely some things, or all things that I’ve thought, whether written or not.

So that said, I am not excusing the s*x stuff. I don’t like it either. Just not expecting them to be how C/A should, since C/A claim Reformed Christianity as their basis, but The K brothers don’t in the Matrix movies. I sure would love for movies to “clean up”, it’s not an easy topic.

It’s dinner time, and I’ve written enough for now!