{"id":182,"date":"2005-09-22T14:39:47","date_gmt":"2005-09-22T18:39:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.hyperthinking.us\/weblog\/2005\/09\/22\/salty-dogma\/"},"modified":"2005-09-22T14:58:32","modified_gmt":"2005-09-22T18:58:32","slug":"salty-dogma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hyperthinking.us\/weblog\/2005\/09\/22\/salty-dogma\/","title":{"rendered":"Salty Dogma"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldmag.com\/displayarticle.cfm?id=10892\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Salty Dogma by G. Veith on Bono's Interview\">Interesting<\/a> &#8230; if you haven&#8217;t seen it yet. <b>Article dated<\/b> <i>August 6, 2005 Worldmag<\/i><b>.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>This quote is in response here: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldmag.com\/displayarticle.cfm?id=11030\">Sept 10 Worldmag Mailbag<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have enjoyed listening to U2 for nearly two decades (&#8220;Salty dogma,&#8221; Aug. 6). So many of U2&#8217;s lyrics are sprinkled with redemptive themes, but I always had the sense that Bono esteems Jesus Christ just as much as he esteems Martin Luther King Jr. I recently attended U2&#8217;s concert in Chicago where Bono chanted, over and over again on stage, &#8220;Jesus, Muhammad, Jew, it&#8217;s true.&#8221; If Bono is a Christian, I remain perplexed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I myself am perplexed over the chanting that the above quote mentions, but context is missing &#8230; so it&#8217;s more perplexing to me than to that person, not that I can&#8217;t see either this or that position about what it might have been about &#8230; I sure can, but I&#8217;m going on the idea of wanting full context before saying much more than I have.<\/p>\n<p>I really liked U2 when I was younger. I have more than a few of their LP&#8217;s and CD&#8217;s combined, but nothing terribly recent, I quit buying U2, for no particular reason.<\/p>\n<p>I find many ideas of redemption in the music, but I will say that I also know that many Christians, while claiming Christ, are still quite confused about what religion is, and how to look at other religions and what should be revered and what should not, and what is equal to what in what religion, etc. Christians that aren&#8217;t taught so think polytheistically all too often, which is what seems to be the problem with both Bono and Bush. Glad my name doesn&#8217;t start with a &#8220;B&#8221;, but even though it doesn&#8217;t I do know enough to examine myself to be sure I&#8217;m in line with religion, there is one way, ONE True God. Our True God is three in one. Christ the Messiah is the Son &#8212; Father, Son, Holy Spirit, three-in-one. Christ is the only way and through him we are saved, but we can&#8217;t just go out and do what we want and use him as a &#8220;get out a jail free&#8221; card, nor view him as &#8220;one of the ways&#8221;. He is not the way for other religions. Other gods are false gods and are not markers for the One True God &#8212; only Jesus and His Shed Blood is the way to salvation and eternal life.<\/p>\n<p>Bono sounds like, in the main article, that he &#8220;gets it&#8221;, but in the end he doesn&#8217;t seem to, in some ways.<\/p>\n<p>I know that if I was put into the limelight, my failings would make me look miserable, and so much a bad Christian. I sure haven&#8217;t been so bad, but it&#8217;s only a way of saying, no one is perfect, we all have failings and do stupid things, whether we admit that to ourselves or not. So what I wanted to really say is that Bono gets that, but doesn&#8217;t have a reformed thought as he could, and should, that worm that I am, in Christ I am whole and I should strive to be obedient, though a lowly worm.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly the main article speaks about the interviewer &#8230; and it&#8217;s plain, they never heard the gospel, and it&#8217;s plain, they still haven&#8217;t fully heard the gospel, if THAT&#8217;s all that Bono said. But since this main article I&#8217;m talking of is not the interview, it&#8217;s third-hand at least, it&#8217;s not the actual interview, nor is it the raw real interview, it&#8217;s an article about a published interview. \ud83d\ude44<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting &#8230; if you haven&#8217;t seen it yet. Article dated August 6, 2005 Worldmag. This quote is in response here: Sept 10 Worldmag Mailbag: I have enjoyed listening to U2 for nearly two decades (&#8220;Salty dogma,&#8221; Aug. 6). So many of U2&#8217;s lyrics are sprinkled with redemptive themes, but I always had the sense that [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5],"tags":[4],"class_list":["post-182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-music","tag-christianity"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":683,"url":"https:\/\/hyperthinking.us\/weblog\/2009\/03\/06\/u2s-new-album\/","url_meta":{"origin":182,"position":0},"title":"U2&#8217;s New Album","author":"Maisy","date":"Friday, March 6, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"I got the new U2 album, No Line on the Horizon, at Target the other day, the 4th of March, 2009. 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