“Natural Born American”

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Fox News Channel was on this morning, TV, and I heard them talking about the “plot to assassinate Bush”.

A photo of the guy was on the screen. Judge N. said something about the guy being a real American, as American as the next American (he really said “natural born american” can you believe that?!!)

The guy was born in the USA, but has co-citizenship with Jordan, apparently.

That’s not American.

That’s a different sort of “American” not the “regular kind of American” that there is. The guy went to school in Falls Church, VA. So what you say? It wasn’t a “normal American type school”. It was a pro-islam, the most extreme type, they said on Fox News Channel.

While they said what they said, as I’ve noted, they don’t assess it as I do. That guy ain’t no American, the way “American” used to be meant.

Think of the movie Gangs of New York. Did you see it? It’s a great movie. The fighting is between the “Natural Born Americans” and the newcomers … the Irish, the Catholics.

The film is interesting in that, while I’m a fan of “Natural Born Americanism”, I didn’t side with it in the movie. The emotions of the movie tie you firmly to the Irish.

In anycase, I use that as a comparison to contemporary America. I take great nostril-flaring offense at being called American like the so-called American/Jordanian. There are newercomers to America. I know about that. I accept them, with reticence atimes, but there’s just something about “Old Natural Born Americans” that I take kinship with, my kith and kin came over before most of the Irish influx. My kith and kin came over mostly before the Revolution of the mid-late 18th Century.

Generation after Generation has been born here.

Now my own DH is a first-born American Generation in his family. His parent immigrated in the 1950’s. God put us together. He took my pride and gave me children half “Old Natural Born Amercian” and half “Second Generation Born American”. The thing is, that means their 2nd generationism is diluted down immensely with my super old natural born american genes. Of course that goes both ways. But it goes on that it’s not wrong per se, since my kith and kin are from many places, and part of that is exactly where my DH’s parents came from. I’m glad to help another family dig deeper into America fastly. 🙂

It’s not that I’m Prideful of having the lines I have behind me. I am thankful to God for them. He saw fit to bring myriads of people to these shores in the early year of colinization. They mixed and produced the first several generations of Americans, before the influx in the mid-1800’s. In their ranks was good citizenship, and religion, and that is what brought me to where I am. I am Presbyterian, Reformed. I had Presbyterian ancestors. Somehow that went into evangelical mishmosh to baptist –what I was born into. But God brought me out of that and to the Reformed camp in my early adult years. Learning of ancestors through genealogy work has been precisely enlightening of the long-chain-of-christians-through-the-years.

My DH’s family is Christian, but just one generation back the maternal granparents and previous generations were not Christians, from what we’ve been told.

We were sent some photos in the past year from some relatives in another country. I was thrilled to see pictures of my MIL, who passed away just one year ago. I also saw her parents, and the parents of her father. That is the non-christian branch. To see them was interesting, I see where the big calves come from 😉 I see that … My DH has a beard and looks SO MUCH like his maternal grandfather, great-grandfather, etc.

So I am happy to see long lines of Christian families, Old Natural Born Americans, continuing on.

I am also happy to have my family be a merging of things:

Old with New, and Old with New.

Old Natural Born American with New Born American, and Old Christian lines with New Christian lines. These things became one and will continue and be strong.

I am only speaking of my family here. I am not making judgement on other families either immigrated recently or in the last 200 years. I am only speaking to the insult of having an Extremist Islam High School in VA and having someone from there born in the USA, holding co-citizenship with the US and Jordan, be called a “Natural Born American” like us.

To be “Natural Born American” it means you are born here and you are of here. You are sticking your boots into the ground and staying here. You are part of the country, part of your region for it’s BETTERMENT, not for it’s destruction.

“Citizenship” is given over easily to the babies of pregnant ladies. They just hop over the border and deliver here and call it “Natural Born American”. Pooey on that. It’s too lax.

A True American isn’t just born here. A True American holds this country in their grasp and helps build it up. That’s why immigrants CAN be acceptable. They are if they hold the US in their grasp and help build it up.

There is much that is wrong with this country, but it’s not destruction to tear down bad government and replace it with Limited Government. That’s only betterment.

If Government would get off their duffs and reduce their size with grand excersice and diet restriction, we’d have a healthier goverment that didn’t stick it’s fat tush into other coutnries faces. That would earn us a measure of respect and we might be left alone. We might have more results with that, to combat terrorism. But the Empire Building Expansion continues. Hate comes at us from all sides. Friendly with China and Israel, in these things I hear our death knell.

Make no mistake either. This post is not pointing fingers as the person/event that sparked the topic. I am not making a judgement saying the Ahmed Omar Abu Ali guy is guilty or not. I am purely, purely sounding off on the Fox News Morning show and what I heard this morning. They offered no evidence to why someone like that could be “Natural Born American”. It was a flippant comment and I was offended by it. Just as much as the cavemen who are watching the Geico commercials on TV are offended. Need I say more?




3 responses to ““Natural Born American””

  1. Katherine Avatar
    Katherine

    As far as I know he’s as American as Timothy McVeigh. He was born in Houston, Texas. His parents moved here from Jordan in the 1970s. I can believe that his father’s a dual citizen, as most Middle Eastern countries do not allow you to renounce citizenship if you’re born there even if you want to. But this is the first I’ve read that Ali is. Are you sure you’re not confusing the son and the father? The names are quite similar: Ahmed Omar Abu Ali (son) and Omar Abu Ali (father). Do you have a link or a cite?

  2. Marysue (Maisy) Avatar

    Of course I don’t have a link or a cite. I “HEARD” about this on TV as they were “chatting” about the subject on FoxNews TV morning show.

    I’m talking about “natural born American” as Judge N. said he was and the idea was that “he’s american as you and me”, which smacks me in the face as that’s not what a “natural born american” is … neither is Timothy McVeigh very good argument to bring into this, that’s an extreme situation.

    I am ranting in the post above about what a “natural born american” is and how they act. They don’t toe the line about all American Policies. A true natural born american isn’t a political position. But it IS a position of claiming this country as one’s own and protecting it and building it up.

    My views on this will differ greatly from other folks, of course. This is an opinion piece sparked by talk about Abu Ali — the son, as it’s the name I checked out to be sure about the spelling in any old mainstream news article that was floating around out there, it’s in my post how I found it. I am not confused. I’m offended at a TV comment.

  3. Marysue (Maisy) Avatar

    Another thought I want to add: There are two types of Americans, cetegories you can put most if:

    1. Nationalist
    2. Patriot

    I am a Patriot: Limited Government, I love this country, not the flag, not the government, but this country and I believe in regionalism, states rights, seccesion-rights, etc.

    A Nationalist is one that seems to love their country, but their country is a different country than the one I say I love. A Patriot is old-school. A Nationalist is new-school. Nationalists support the government and the so-called war. These are the new flag wavers.

    Most people are nationalists. Some people seem to be nationalists but are patriots at heart –they only need to learn the definition to actually start acting like a patriot instead of a nationalist.

    I am not claiming the above to be “proper definitions” I am writing this down without referring to other documents. It’s the spirit of it all though.

    So it goes to follow “Natural Born Americans” should not be nationalists, but should be “patriots”. My definition for patriot is only my personal version of it off the top of my head. It’s not a complete idea as written above.

    Many immigrants adopt this country as their own and are better patriots than many natural born americans.

    If one is a “natural born american” as defined as “one that is born in america” and they are taught to hate America; To destroy it; They hate Christians usually too. They are not Patriots. They aren’t even Nationalists.

    They were “born here” sure, but that’s not the full thinking behind “natural born american” so that’s what I’m referring to in this whole thread.

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