Mission: Save the World

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I didn’t watch the Inauguration Ceremonies on TV yesterday. All I did was see a bit of the poof-poof on Fox & Friends early in the morning, and then again this very morning, the morning after.

The article I have below is from backwaterreport.com. Posted yesterday. And it firstly has the right quote. The sort of thing that Fox & Friends was talking about, showed a small clip of P. Bush saying something like that … and I was ready to turn OFF the TV. They were talking about it as if it’s GREAT, bowing to Bush and basking in his glow.

To be so 80’s … gag me with a spoon … 😉

“It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.”

Oh, really? What policy? Is is able to stand up and be reviewed favorably under the United States Constitution? Nah, bet it’s not. In fact, I KNOW it can’t. Can’t means CAN NOT. Which means “is not able to …” As in, “A dead man is not able to seek God”

I hate the way the country is today. The so-called “Civil War” of the mid-19th Century forged the “union” with force. It hurt the people of both the North and South. Changed things overall for the worse.

Now it’s our “Modern Duty” to force the rest of the world into this same type of thing? Force the countries that the Administration deems “necessary… they need to change” …

It’s not that it’s not good to change the world, but that the world mustn’t change through Military Force. How is this any different from Brits in the past? Rome? And all the other Military Mights of History?

Ah, you say it’s different. Only different in angle. Not scope or end. It’s horrible. Death. Who’s?

Yes, some bad men. Some bad women. That’s good, right? Wrong. Who says WE are the ones to do it? What give US the RIGHT? Not our Constitution. We did not form a Country to go around the globe “liberating” everyone else. Let them liberate themselves if they want to. WE did, didn’t we? In the 18th Century? Then in the next century that Constitution that bound States together was killed and smashed to pieces. Then bits and pieces melted together to form totally new ideas and … the rest is history. They pretend to follow “the original constitution” but really don’t. It’s only a fake front.

That’s why it’s US and THEM. We see the truth, THEY are blind.

Sigh.

God is on High, and His gospel will bring peace. NOTHING else can. NOTHING else will. NOTHING else can even mimic God’s real peace.

I am a postmillennian reformed presbyterian westminster confession, christian agrigarian … INTP 🙂

My vision is true. It’s God’s. I didn’t make it up. I got it from His Word.

backwaterreport.com/index.php?p=288
Saving the World
by Mark Jurries II

President Bush said today that “It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.” I won’t waste much time dissecting the various legal problems with this statement and its mindest, (i.e. the lack of a Constitutional mandate to save the world), inasmuch as I suspect that the majority as ya’ll can spot the problems right off the bat. I do wish to address the theological and culture impacts, however.

Firstly, this should not be confused with postmillenialism. I say this because there are those who confuse the current secular Messianicism/Jacobism with postmillenialism. In a nutshell, postmillenialism holds that Christ will expand His kingdom on earth via means we’re not aware of. Hence, as Christians we’re to spread the gospel and raise Godly families, amongst other things.

The mindest of Bush and the neoconservatives, one that was previously held by Northern Unitarians and French Jacobins, is to free mankind through force. The mindset here holds that if man has “freedom”, he’ll be better off. While it’s true that freedom is great for man, it is rarely defined. (Bret McAtee has written a great article about the subject. Read also his Inauguration musings.) To be fair, this isn’t limited to the neoconservatives and liberals, there are a lot of conservatives and libertarians who talk about freedom and liberty without offering much a definition. And were they in power, they’d have problems as a result of that as well.

I attended a lecture by Steve Wilkins once, and he made the point that it used to be that when we wanted to change a country, we would send missionaries. Now we send the Marines. It’s a good thing to wish to be rid of tyrants, but at the same time they have a pesky tendency to replace each other. We threw down a tyrant in Iran, only to get the Shah.

The Middle East will see no peace until it embraces the Gospel. (I include Israel in that, there seem to be some evangelicals who have forgotten that Israel is as pagan as its neighbors.) The military is made to break things, not to fix them and certainly not to build them. The new-world-order types may mean well, but they’ll only become tyrants themselves if they follow this course.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. – C.S. Lewis

To get back to my original point, postmillenialists would not advocate conversion at gunpoint. The new Jacobins certainly do. Whether or not you’re a postmillenialist isn’t my concern, (though I would hope that you are), but I don’t wish to see the term nor the perception of its ideas sullied by a secular ideology.




3 responses to “Mission: Save the World”

  1. Tamara (AK) Avatar

    Oh, I know! This infuriates me to no end! (Can I call this “righteous indignation”?!? 😉 ) I’m right there with you… Who appointed us as “big brother” of the world??? We’ve often discussed the same things here in our house and I say, too, if they want freedom – let them fight for it just as we did! They’ll certainly appreciate it more…as it’s clearly seen, they aren’t appreciating it from our hands that’s for sure! And, you know, I don’t blame them one bit. “Busibodies” (and worse!) that’s what the USA is now. Bleh!!!

    I was the only one in my family to vote for Perutka (oop, might have spelled it wrong). That’s why I didn’t put any supportive “stuff” up on our blog. Anyway, dh and I discussed and discussed before the election and we *had* to vote seperately. 🙁 He said he understood the “pragmatist” arguements but still felt he had no choice – ugh! (That’s also why I didn’t join in the discussion on the PW list…this is just one area I couldn’t “submit” in.) So, dh is on the same page as I (and you) and the more evidences that come up I’m trying reeeaaally hard not to say, “I told you so.”, “You’re only getting what you voted for.”, etc., etc.

    You really shouldn’t have gotten me started on this… 😉 My parents will be here in a couple of hours and I’m sure they won’t want to listen to me rant! LOL

  2. Marysue Avatar

    Tamara, Glad you voted for Peroutka (this is the right spelling, I learned it on purpose so as not to look foolish to all the Bush Supporters in 2004 😉 )

    I’m so sorry your DH didn’t vote the same as you, even though he knew the pragmatic stuff then … On a particular reformed message board there were pragmatists and they didn’t even come as far as your DH, but well then they might not have been honestly talking about what they thought. 🙁

    It is SOOO hard not to say “I told you so” to others, so I know how THAT feels, but feel deeply for you in the hardship it is in your case, much harder I bet!!!!

    I’m sorry 😉 to have gotten you started on this. I suddenly just had words to say. I found that post on backwater report and that coupled with Fox & Friends show stuff I’d heard/seen … I just couldn’t not say anything. 🙂

    Hope all goes well in your household with these type of discussions! 🙂

  3. Tamara (AK) Avatar

    That’s perfectly alright! Yes, all is fun in these types of discussions at home. 🙂 Most of the time we are on the same page and turning at the same time! 😉 This time, we just couldn’t agree. And, he would have been terribly disappointed in me if I voted just to please him. So, all in all, everything was fine. He really sees “our” side…is on “our” side…but… Don’t ask me. He’s fed up and dislikes/distrusts Bush… I couldn’t understand why he couldn’t vote otherwise. [shaking head in bewilderment] Ah well. Really, really has me curious about what will happen at the polls next time. 😉

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