3 responses to ““Natural Born American””

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   Katherine

   Wednesday, February 23, 2005

   As far as I know he’s as American as Timothy McVeigh. He was born in Houston, Texas. His parents moved here from Jordan in the 1970s. I can believe that his father’s a dual citizen, as most Middle Eastern countries do not allow you to renounce citizenship if you’re born there even if you want to. But this is the first I’ve read that Ali is. Are you sure you’re not confusing the son and the father? The names are quite similar: Ahmed Omar Abu Ali (son) and Omar Abu Ali (father). Do you have a link or a cite?

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   Marysue (Maisy)

   Thursday, February 24, 2005

   Of course I don’t have a link or a cite. I “HEARD” about this on TV as they were “chatting” about the subject on FoxNews TV morning show.

   I’m talking about “natural born American” as Judge N. said he was and the idea was that “he’s american as you and me”, which smacks me in the face as that’s not what a “natural born american” is … neither is Timothy McVeigh very good argument to bring into this, that’s an extreme situation.

   I am ranting in the post above about what a “natural born american” is and how they act. They don’t toe the line about all American Policies. A true natural born american isn’t a political position. But it IS a position of claiming this country as one’s own and protecting it and building it up.

   My views on this will differ greatly from other folks, of course. This is an opinion piece sparked by talk about Abu Ali — the son, as it’s the name I checked out to be sure about the spelling in any old mainstream news article that was floating around out there, it’s in my post how I found it. I am not confused. I’m offended at a TV comment.

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   Marysue (Maisy)

   Thursday, February 24, 2005

   Another thought I want to add: There are two types of Americans, cetegories you can put most if:

   1. Nationalist
   2. Patriot

   I am a Patriot: Limited Government, I love this country, not the flag, not the government, but this country and I believe in regionalism, states rights, seccesion-rights, etc.

   A Nationalist is one that seems to love their country, but their country is a different country than the one I say I love. A Patriot is old-school. A Nationalist is new-school. Nationalists support the government and the so-called war. These are the new flag wavers.

   Most people are nationalists. Some people seem to be nationalists but are patriots at heart –they only need to learn the definition to actually start acting like a patriot instead of a nationalist.

   I am not claiming the above to be “proper definitions” I am writing this down without referring to other documents. It’s the spirit of it all though.

   So it goes to follow “Natural Born Americans” should not be nationalists, but should be “patriots”. My definition for patriot is only my personal version of it off the top of my head. It’s not a complete idea as written above.

   Many immigrants adopt this country as their own and are better patriots than many natural born americans.

   If one is a “natural born american” as defined as “one that is born in america” and they are taught to hate America; To destroy it; They hate Christians usually too. They are not Patriots. They aren’t even Nationalists.

   They were “born here” sure, but that’s not the full thinking behind “natural born american” so that’s what I’m referring to in this whole thread.

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